Posts Tagged ‘ taxes ’

Why I think an Income-based Tax Will Never Work

A recent article by the esteemed tax lawyer and USC professor Edward McCaffery reviewed some of the “issues” with the current debate over how much Mitt Romney pays in income taxes.  Romney’s 2011 returns show that he paid 14.1% taxes on the income that he earned last year.  Or roughly He also gave a lot of money to charity and I am sure took advantage of all of the tax code deductions available to him.

As does every other American.  Including you.  Including me.  Including every member of Congress.  And yes, even President Obama.

Now, many would argue that none of these people should be paying a lower tax rate than middle-class people, but in reality, over the years these people likely did pay higher tax rates based on earned income, as they built their wealth.  But now that the majority of their income is not earned income but rather investment income, they reap the benefits – including tax benefits – of their previous work.  It’s the same thing with the middle-class; if you have savings in mutual funds, etc., and have earnings from there, it’s taxed at investment income rates, because it wasn’t earned from labor.  We also have things like 401Ks, IRAs, and the like that allow us to save money, in some cases tax-deferred, and then take the money out later at the same investment income rates that Mitt Romney benefits from.

Now, do I see a problem with this?  I do.  Absolutely.  But not for the reason you might expect.

I think the whole idea of taxing people’s income is ridiculous.  Why should you pay taxes on what you earn?  I think this works well in an agrarian society, where people grow crops, sell them, and perhaps live more off of what they grow rather than what they buy.  But much like the uselessness of Daylight Savings Time, taxing based on income perhaps made sense at one time, but no more.

We are very assertive in beating people up for paying too little in taxes.  They are doing nothing illegal.  They are following the law.  The law all the politicians that are slinging mud today at Romney actually passed, and the law that all of those politicians take advantage of also.  To note, only 17 of the 535 members of Congress have released any of their tax returns, probably because many of us would start turning our attention over to them for the same types of so-called abuses of the system.  But in reality, everyone is likely just taking advantage of the system.  A very, very broken system.

Instead, I am in full favor of a consumption tax.  You earn the most you can.  You invest in education to allow you to earn the most you can.  You are charitable, and give to others.  You essentially do what you want with what you earn.

But the minute you start to buy something, you have to pay a tax on what you bought.  Doesn’t matter what you earn.  It only matters what you buy.  If you decide to go buy a very expensive sports car, you pay a very expensive sports car-like tax.  If you buy a jalopy because that’s all you can afford, you pay a tax on that.  And if you don’t want to pay taxes to the evil government, problem solved.  Just don’t buy anything.  Save your money – wow, that’s a great idea – and only spend it on what you actually need.

There have been LOTS of arguments for a consumption tax.  Some have called it a fair tax.  And this bring me to my point about the Romneys, the Obamas, the Clintons, the Bushes, the Buffets.  All of these guys make a lot of money and have a lot of money. God bless them.  I have absolutely no issue with that.  In fact, I think it’s great and an encouragement to me to keep trying harder to make the most of whatever talents I may have.  So stop beating them up for working hard, being wise, and benefitting from their efforts.

Instead, if you really want to “stick it to the rich”, tax their consumption.  There’s no way to take advantage of a system like that.  I don’t care if someone has a private plane.  Let ’em pay taxes on it when they buy it to help fund the government.  I don’t care if someone has 10 houses.  Let ’em pay taxes on them when they buy them.  That to me is getting people to pay their fair share.  Because I guarantee you, people who have money will not let something like a 28% tax on purchases keep them from buying what they want.  And frankly, it won’t prevent those people who are middle-income and below from being able to buy their things with that same tax, especially if the 25% that most claim to be paying in income tax is no longer being taken out of their paycheck.

By doing so, we might also be able to get rid of the IRS and save $12B in the process, and not have to worry about “keeping up with surging tax cheating and insufficiently collecting enough revenue or helping confused taxpayers”, as Nina Olson with Huffington Post points out.  Instead, use existing state revenue authorities – that already collect state sales taxes – to collect this and then each state could pay the Federal government for services.  How would that be…the Federal government asking the States for funding.

So, until someone decides to really look at tax reform and shifting to something along the lines of a consumption tax, this whole talk about getting people to pay their fair share is utterly meaningless and is only an exercise in class warfare.

The Last Four Years of Congress…

I picked this up from another blog site’s comments, and thought it was an interesting account of the past four years.  Particularly timely as I know the barbs are going back and forth right now on the budget super-committee failure.

The day the Democrats took over was not January 22nd 2009 it was actually January 3rd 2007 the day the Democrats took over the House of Representatives and the Senate, the start of the 110th Congress. The Democratic Party controlled a majority in both chambers for the first time since the end of the 103rd Congress in 1995. For those who are listening to the liberals propagating the fallacy that everything is “Bush’s Fault”, think about this:

January 3rd, 2007 was the day the Democrats took over the Senate and the Congress:

At the time:
The DOW Jones closed at 12,621.77

The GDP for the previous quarter was 3.5%

The Unemployment rate was 4.6%

George Bush’s Economic policies SET A RECORD of 52 STRAIGHT MONTHS of JOB CREATION!

Remember the day…

January 3rd, 2007 was the day that Barney Frank took over the House Financial Services Committee and Chris Dodd took over the Senate Banking Committee.

The economic meltdown that happened 15 months later was in what part of the economy? BANKING AND FINANCIAL SERVICES!

Thank Congress for taking us from 13,000 DOW, 3.5 GDP and 4.6% Unemployment to this CRISIS by dumping 5-6 TRILLION Dollars of toxic loans on the economy from YOUR Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac fiasco’s!

(BTW: Bush asked Congress 17 TIMES to stop Fannie & Freddie – starting in 2001, because it was financially risky for the U.S. economy, but no one was listening).

And who took the THIRD highest pay-off from Fannie Mae AND Freddie Mac? Then Senator OBAMA.

And who fought against reform of Fannie and Freddie??? OBAMA and the Democratic Congress.

So when someone tries to blame Bush… REMEMBER JANUARY 3rd, 2007…. “THE DAY THE DEMOCRATS TOOK OVER!”

Bush may have been in the car, but the Democrats were in charge of the gas pedal, the steering wheel and they were driving. Set the record straight on Bush!

So, as you listen to all the commercials and media from the Democrats who are now distancing themselves from their voting record and their party, remember how they didn’t listen to you when you said you didn’t want all the bailouts, you didn’t want the health care bill, you didn’t want cap and trade, you didn’t want them to continue spending money we don’t have.

Those that know me know that I am not just a blanket supporter of any party.  I think there are flaws, corruption, and greed on both sides.  However, I do think that the statements above should be considered to those who are independently wanting to evaluate our current economic situation and use our own interpretations of all the facts to determine how we vote this next year.  So, I guess I’m probably more posting this for me than for anyone in particular, so that I don’t get swayed by just hearing one side of the story…

Illustration of our Tax System

I rarely post something that I get in an email, but one of the smartest guys I know sent this to me, and I found this explanation of our tax system both comical and sobering at the same time.

This was written by Professor David Kamerschen, PhD with University of Georgia’s Department of Economics.

So, here goes…


A brilliant explanation of the US tax system using actual percentages, and the impact of a tax cut.

Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all ten comes to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this:

The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.

The fifth would pay $1.

The sixth would pay $3.

The seventh would pay $7.

The eighth would pay $12.

The ninth would pay $18.

The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59.

So, that’s what they decided to do. The ten men drank in the bar every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a curve. “Since you are all such good customers,” he said, “I’m going to reduce the cost of your daily beer by $20. “Drinks for the ten now cost just $80.

The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes, so the first four men were unaffected. They would still drink for free. But what about the other six men – the paying customers? How could they divide the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his ‘fair share?’

They realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they subtracted that from everybody’s share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would each end up being paid to drink his beer. So, the bar owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man’s bill by roughly the same amount, and he proceeded to work out the amounts each should pay.

And so –

The fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% savings).

The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33%savings).

The seventh now pay $5 instead of $7 (28%savings).

The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% savings).

The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 ( 22% savings).

The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% savings).

Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued to drink for free. But once outside the restaurant, the men began to compare their savings.

“I only got a dollar out of the $20,”declared the sixth man. He pointed to the tenth man,” but he got $10!”

“Yeah, that’s right,” exclaimed the fifth man. “I only saved a dollar, too. It’s unfair that he got ten times more than I!”

“That’s true!!” shouted the seventh man. “Why should he get $10 back when I got only two? The wealthy get all the breaks!”

“Wait a minute,” yelled the first four men in unison. “We didn’t get anything at all. The system exploits the poor!”

The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up. The next night the tenth man didn’t show up for drinks, so the nine sat down and had beers without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They didn’t have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill!

And that, boys and girls, journalists and college professors, is how our tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they might start drinking overseas where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.